{"id":50,"date":"2008-08-12T03:36:39","date_gmt":"2008-08-12T03:36:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/travisheermann.com\/blog\/?p=50"},"modified":"2009-08-19T06:51:21","modified_gmt":"2009-08-19T06:51:21","slug":"author-interview-series-21-catherine-asaro","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/travisheermann.com\/blog\/2008\/08\/12\/author-interview-series-21-catherine-asaro\/","title":{"rendered":"Author Interview Series #21 &#8211; Catherine Asaro"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Night-Bird-Catherine-Asaro\/dp\/0373802684%3FSubscriptionId%3D02E5W5871AJF7PMMMS82%26tag%3Dthwrli-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D0373802684\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"float: right;\" src=\"http:\/\/ecx.images-amazon.com\/images\/I\/51%2BopDpRPuL._SL160_.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>Nebula Award-winning author Catherine Asaro is one of those writers who have made the transition from a career in hard science to writing hard science fiction. She blends strong female characters, romance, and hard SF into stories that have kept readers coming back for twenty novels to date.\u00a0 But even within the staunchly rational and quantifiable boundaries of her training and earlier profession as a theortical physicist and academician, there was a deep well of creativity that spans music and dance as well as a writing. That creativity quickly becomes evident in her books and in our conversation.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: Can you give a brief arc of your career thus far as a writer\/author?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Quantum-Rose-Saga-Skolian-Empire\/dp\/0812568834%3FSubscriptionId%3D02E5W5871AJF7PMMMS82%26tag%3Dthwrli-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D0812568834\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"float: right;\" src=\"http:\/\/ecx.images-amazon.com\/images\/I\/5100BRQ4S8L._SL160_.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> CA: I started to write seriously in graduate school, as a way to relax from doing my doctorate.\u00a0 I wrote the first version of <em>Catch the Lighting, The Last Hawk, A Roll of the Dice, Aurora in Four Voices, Light and Shadow,<\/em> and <em>Primary Inversion<\/em>, and I already had worked out the stories for <em>The Radiant Seas, Schism, The Final Key, Skyfall<\/em>, parts of <em>The Quantum Rose<\/em>, and various other bits.  My first fiction publication was &#8220;Dance in Blue,&#8221; a novelette in a Christmas anthology edited by David Hartwell at Tor. He also had <em>Primary Inversion<\/em>, and I think he wanted to see what I was like to work with before buying the book. I was very pleased with the story; he&#8217;s a good editor.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve been fortunate to work with excellent editors, all of them.\u00a0 My first story in Analog was &#8220;Light and Shadow.&#8221;\u00a0 The editor, Stan Schmidt, found it in the slush pile.\u00a0 <em>Primary Inversion<\/em> was my first book, and I&#8217;ve had over twenty since then.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: When did you know that you wanted to be a writer?\u00a0 How did you know?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: Well, I <strong>tried<\/strong> to write when I was eight, but decided I didn&#8217;t know enough.\u00a0 I didn&#8217;t try again until my last semester in undergraduate school, at UCLA.\u00a0 It took over! I knew then I couldn&#8217;t write in graduate school, or it would take over again and distract me from my work. So I didn&#8217;t for a few more years.\u00a0 But eventually I did start writing again.\u00a0 And it did indeed distract me. I suspect it added another six months to the time it took me to finish my doctorate.\u00a0 The writing just grabs you by the shoulders and won&#8217;t let go until you let it have its way with you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: Are you a writer who puts herself out there, or one who stays in and scribbles in private?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: I write in private, but I always give my work to other people to get their comments.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve found it invaluable.\u00a0 I&#8217;m not one to think my work can&#8217;t be improved.\u00a0 Good readers can pick up things I didn&#8217;t see, didn&#8217;t know, didn&#8217;t make clear, or didn&#8217;t who-knows-what-else. A good reader is worth her or his weight in gold.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: A lot of established writers seem to have a stack of writing somewhere stuffed in a shoebox.\u00a0 I&#8217;m talking about stuff that perhaps helped you learn and develop your craft, but will never see the light of day, like the five novels the author had to write before he could get to the good one. Do you have anything like this?\u00a0 What&#8217;s in your shoebox?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: Well somewhere packed away in some box is that story I wrote at UCLA.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve no idea where it is, though.\u00a0 It wouldn&#8217;t work as a book now because it was an earlier version of the <em>Ruby Dynasty<\/em>, in a story that is at odds with most of what I&#8217;ve written since.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: Of course, most writers want to have bestsellers or make some sort of artistic or literary impact, and you have numerous novels to your credit.\u00a0 Are there some unrealized accomplishments that you&#8217;re striving for in the near future?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: Yeah, sure.\u00a0 \ud83d\ude00\u00a0 I&#8217;d love to have a bestseller.<span class=\"__mozilla-findbar-search\" style=\"padding: 0pt; background-color: yellow; color: black; display: inline; font-size: inherit;\"> <\/span>I&#8217;ve been on some of the less well known lists, and I&#8217;ve skimmed the bottom of some of the bigger lists, but I&#8217;ve never made it high up.\u00a0 Yet!  It&#8217;s important to me that my work be artistically satisfying. Some literary types scoff at science fiction, romance, and fantasy as genres, but I see absolutely no reason why genre fiction can&#8217;t be literary.\u00a0 Of course, what people define as literary varies a great deal. It isn&#8217;t just genre versus non-genre, either.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve noticed it with all types of groups.\u00a0 For example, women and men have somewhat different ideas about it.\u00a0 Men sometimes refer to what women consider literary as fluff, and women sometimes wonder what the heck is all the ado about with some works that appeal more to the male literary types.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: What are some of the things that most inspire you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: I listen to music a lot.\u00a0 I like all kinds.\u00a0 This month I&#8217;m working on a book about a rock star in the future, so my June 2008 playlist has a lot of rock music in it.\u00a0 Here are some samples of what I&#8217;ve been listening to, mostly rock from current works in 2008 all the way back to the late sixties, but also with some other music I enjoy:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Because The Night, by Patti Smith<\/li>\n<li>Bolero, by Maurice Ravel<\/li>\n<li>Breath, by Breaking Benjamin<\/li>\n<li>Canon in D, by Pacho Bel<\/li>\n<li>Carry Me over, Avantasia<\/li>\n<li>The Crystal Ship, by the Doors<\/li>\n<li>Don&#8217;t Stop Believin&#8217;, by Journey<\/li>\n<li>The End of Nothing (plus hidden track), by Point Valid<\/li>\n<li>Everybody Wants to Rule the World, by Tears for Fears<\/li>\n<li>Forever Young, by Alphaville<\/li>\n<li>Love Reign O&#8217;er Me, by The Who<\/li>\n<li>Maleguena, by Ernesto Lecuona<\/li>\n<li>Miracles, by Jefferson Starship<\/li>\n<li>The Mummers&#8217; Dance, by Loreena McKennitt<\/li>\n<li>No Cars Go, by Arcade Fire<\/li>\n<li>Nothing Else Matters, by Metallica<\/li>\n<li>Rhiannon, by Fleetwood Mac<\/li>\n<li>Superman (It&#8217;s Not Easy), by Five for Fighting<\/li>\n<li>Take On Me, by a-ha<\/li>\n<li>Viva la Vida, by Coldplay<\/li>\n<li>What You Leave Behind, by Edenbridge<\/li>\n<li>Wheel In the Sky, by Journey<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>TH: A lot of genre writers might be hungry to know more about the process by which you built a readership.\u00a0 What are the most successful ways you have used to promote yourself and your work?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: I wish I knew.\u00a0 Then I&#8217;d do more of it.\u00a0 \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: Was there a point at which you realized that you had &#8220;made it&#8221; as a writer and author?\u00a0 Are you there yet?\u00a0 If so, can you describe the milestone or circumstances? Do you recall how that felt?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: Not there yet.\u00a0 I make a living as a writer, but if I had to support a family alone on what I make, it would be tight.  Winning the Nebula Award was one of the high points of my writing career.\u00a0 I was surprised <em>The Quantum Rose<\/em> won.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a retelling of Beauty and the Beast, and also an allegory to quantum scattering theory.\u00a0 The sf world is more male dominated, so romantic stories receive less critical approval than in other genres (I&#8217;m being tactful here {wry smile}).\u00a0 But it won anyway.\u00a0 I was convinced it wouldn&#8217;t, and if Nancy Kress hadn&#8217;t made me write an acceptance speech on the back of my name-tag during the banquet, I wouldn&#8217;t have had anything prepared to say.  The theoretical physics allegory is based on my doctoral work, because I was working out the story around the same time as I was writing my thesis.\u00a0 Everything in the book has a meaning associated with quantum scattering theory, and it&#8217;s all intertwined for me because that was so much a part of my life then, it was impossible to separate the physics from the writing.  I almost didn&#8217;t include the essay in the back of the book explaining the allegory.\u00a0 I was writing close to deadline, and I had to do it really fast, which is why it&#8217;s not as well explained as it could be.\u00a0 I&#8217;m glad now, though, that I did include it.\u00a0 People tell me they wouldn&#8217;t have realized what I was doing with the physics otherwise.  I dedicated the book to my thesis advisors, of course: Alex Dalgarno at the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, who was just about as great of an advisor as you can get; Kate Kirby, Co-Director of the Institute for Atomic and Molecular Physics, who had an office right next to mine when I was in graduate school, and who was an incredible role model; and Eric (Rick) Heller, who is also a professor and Harvard and ITAMP.\u00a0 Rick was my Honors Thesis advisor when I was an undergraduate at UCLA, and he&#8217;s the one who recommended I work with Alex at Harvard for my doctorate.\u00a0 Eventually Rick came to Harvard, too, though that was after I graduated.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: Theoretical physics was part of my undergrad engineering curriculum, and some of the most eccentric (and from a writer&#8217;s standpoint, interesting) people I have ever met were theoretical physicists.\u00a0 Do you borrow directly, purposefully from people you have met in your fiction, or do aspects of certain people come through naturally?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: Hah!\u00a0 Actually, most of the theoretical physicists I know are ordinary people.\u00a0 Delightful as friends, but no eccentric traits. I try not to write about people I know, unless I purposely Tuckerize them with their permission.\u00a0 Otherwise, it constrains what I do with the characters.  One time I met someone who had some notable similarities to a character in my books.\u00a0 I soon found myself thinking, &#8220;I don&#8217;t want anything bad to happen to that character.&#8221;\u00a0 It made it almost impossible to write about him.\u00a0 So I changed the character to take away enough of the similarities that he no longer seemed so much like anyone I knew.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: Do various quantum particles have their own identifiable character?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: Well, particles have all sorts of quantum numbers that define their properties &#8230;  Okay, maybe a physics lecture isn&#8217;t the best answer.\u00a0 \ud83d\ude00  When I was making up the story for <em>The Quantum Rose<\/em>, I was also writing my doctorate, which used quantum scattering theory to give a coupled channel formalism for describing polyatomic photodissociation (such a catchy subject, soon to be a major movie &#8230; or maybe not).\u00a0 I used to lie in bed at night, thinking about my work.\u00a0 The way I relaxed was to let stories evolve in my mind, so the story for <em>The Quantum Rose<\/em> evolved right along with my thesis work.\u00a0 Pretty soon I was associating characters in the book with quantum scattering processes.\u00a0 It was fun, like putting together a puzzle.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: Do you write full-time nowadays, or are you still involved with theoretical physics?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: I also coach math.\u00a0 My program has produced nationally ranked teams.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve had students invited to the USA Mathematical Olympiad (USAMO), which is used to select the American team for the International Math Olympiad (IMO), the &#8220;Olympics&#8221; of math.\u00a0 I also took the Chesapeake team to the American Regional Math League (ARML), and they ranked fourth in the nation in B Division.\u00a0 One od them was one of only thirteen students in the country asked to take the IMO selection test.\u00a0 Another made the national tie-breaker for the ARML.\u00a0 Yet another was a Gold winner in the USA Mathematical Talent Search.\u00a0 Heck, I could go on with their accomplishments all night!\u00a0 I&#8217;m like a proud parent for these young people.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a real pleasure to work with them.  By the way, I have a Facebook account now with pictures and info about my books, if folks would like to stop by there.  It&#8217;s probably too short of notice for this, but also, I&#8217;m doing an interview on Second Life this weekend.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s a link with info about it.  <a href=\"http:\/\/eventsinextropia.wordpress.com\/2008\/07\/22\/catherine-asaro\/\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/eventsinextropia.wordpress.com\/2008\/07\/22\/catherine-asaro\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: What can readers expect to see from you in the near future?\u00a0 What are you working on?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: Well, my fantasy novel <em>The Night Bird<\/em> just came out.\u00a0 It&#8217;s from Luna books.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a big epic type fantasy.\u00a0 If parents are thinking of it for young adults, though, they should know it&#8217;s sexier than some of the other books I&#8217;ve written.  <em>Diamond Star<\/em>, the book about the rock star in the future, will be coming out in May 2009.\u00a0 We&#8217;ll be releasing a CD to go with it. The band Point Valid is doing the songs, which are mostly the songs I wrote for the book.\u00a0 I did the lyrics and some of the music, and the band did the rest of music. Hayim Ani, the lead singer\/guitarist for the band, wrote a lot of the music. He also wrote the lyrics for three songs in the book.\u00a0 I&#8217;m learning a lot about the music business and recording in the studio and sing two songs on the CD.\u00a0 The band is great, and is doing good work. A cut from the CD is up at:  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fast-forward.tv\/audio\/carnelians.mp3\">http:\/\/www.fast-forward.tv\/audio\/carnelians.mp3<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>TH: Do you have a backgroun<\/strong><strong>d in music that helped you with writing the songs for <em>Diamond Star<\/em>?\u00a0 Or did you delve into the music skills as necessary?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CA: I started taking ballet and playing piano when I was about five years old.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve danced all my life, so I&#8217;ve been saturated in music.\u00a0 I still dance, but I don&#8217;t practice the piano as much. I can still play some things, a little Bach, Mozart, Malaguena, some popular music.\u00a0 I compose more on the computer, because you aren&#8217;t limited by your hands. Of course, that means I come up with some weird arrangements that aren&#8217;t comfortable to play.  I grew up surrounded by music.\u00a0 My father was training to be a concert pianist before he decided that to support a family he should have a more secure job.\u00a0 So I grew up immersed in piano and ballet music.  And I listen to music constantly.\u00a0 I like rock, Spanish, and classical the best.\u00a0 I&#8217;m on my August playlist now.\u00a0 I didn&#8217;t have one for July; the June list sort of morphed into this one.\u00a0 This month it&#8217;s more symphonic metal than anything else, but there&#8217;s other stuff, too.\u00a0 This is what I listen to while I write.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Angels, by Within Temptation<\/li>\n<li>Carry Me Over, by Avantasia<\/li>\n<li>The End of Nothing (plus hidden track), by Point Valid<\/li>\n<li>Forever Young, by Alphaville<\/li>\n<li>Love Reign O&#8217;er Me, by The Who<\/li>\n<li>Everybody Wants to Rule the World, by Tears for Fears<\/li>\n<li>Farewell, by Avantasia<\/li>\n<li>Lost In Space, by Avantasia<\/li>\n<li>Memories, by Within Temptation<\/li>\n<li>The Mummers&#8217; Dance, by Loreena McKennitt<\/li>\n<li>No Cars Go, by Arcade Fire<\/li>\n<li>Nothing Else Matters, Metallica<\/li>\n<li>Take On Me, a-ha<\/li>\n<li>Viva la Vida, by 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